RENSE: Benjamin Fulford, live from Tokyo. We're talking about the Asian / Chinese secret society,
FULFORD: Absolutely. They are everywhere. Remember that 2/3rds of the members are scholars, not gangsters. These will be people working as researchers, for example, in government laboratories, or as university professors.
RENSE: Now we know, Ben, there are lots of Chinese over here in the United States. At the university level, certainly doing contract work for very important corporations. By the tens of thousands, they are over here. Now is this People's Liberation Army, or is this a secret society, or is it both?
FULFORD: These people are anti-Communist. You've got to get that clear. They are not part of the People's Republic of China.
RENSE: So the PLA has spies all over the place here, but the secret society is not part of that. They are completely opposed to it.
FULFORD: Yeah. They are a totally separate organization. But they do have membership, of course, in the Chinese secret police, et cetera. It's a weird mix.
If they do have one loyalty, the rules I was told were to protect the weak, fight against injustice, to help each other. There is nothing I would find morally objectionable in what they told me were their codes. It just reads like a book of morals.
RENSE: It sounds like good old-fashioned values. That would work here.
So you had this meeting in Taiwan. The plan was to reduce Asia's population to 500 million. And Japan was ordered to reduce their population to 75 million.
We're talking about the Asian / Chinese secret society, which has tentacles all over the world. It is more than concerned about the plans, and apparently one failed attempt, to massively reduce the Chinese population, enroute to an overall world population reduction of some 80 percent. At least that's our understanding of the plans of a faction of the world elite, the Illuminati, the controllers, and so forth. RENSE: Okay. Back to the meeting in Taiwan.
FULFORD: They decided that these people need to be overthrown.
RENSE: The Rothschilds, the Illuminati, the Rockefellers. They are going to be given an ultimatum. FULFORD: The Chinese [secret society has] six million. So that's 600 to 1 odds. More specifically, there are ten professional assassins for each member of the Illuminati. So basically it's checkmate for them.
The question is how to bring this out to the public and make this a formal thing.
However, killing people is something I don't like - and neither do they. So the first order of business is to try to talk, before things get radical.
The point is, there is the technical ability to wipe them all out in a matter of hours. They would all be assassinated.
But instead, I think, they're going to be offered an opportunity. I don't think - I know. They are going to be offered an opportunity to surrender.
RENSE: Will you be playing a role in making such an offer?
FULFORD: Absolutely. I am their spokesman. My job is to represent them in the Western world.
I know what I am allowed to say and what I am not allowed to say.
The point is this. We would start by killing David Rockefeller, and then work our way down the list until they agree to our terms.
RENSE: You speak, I want to make this clear. Ben Fulford is speaking hypothetically here.
FULFORD: Hypothetically. What I'm saying is that if they do not surrender...
RENSE: ...or comply, or become acquiescent...
FULFORD: Yes. Then we have to protect ourselves from genocide. And the way to do that, with the minimum possible death, is we start at the top of the Eye and work our way down until they agree.
RENSE: So the idea would be five or ten thousand is a lot better than a billion.
FULFORD: Zero is a lot better than five or ten thousand!
RENSE: And that was my next statement. Yes. I understand that.
FULFORD: My job is to try to make sure that not a single person dies. That is the ideal. The commissions that are going to be offered - and I know David Rockefeller is going to be listening to this, so you'd better listen, David Rockefeller:
1. They are going to be allowed to keep their palaces and their servants. They will be given an amnesty, but they must appear before a truth commission.
2. And they must promise - them and their clan - to never, ever try again to enslave the human race.
3. And third, they must spend the rest of their lives doing good deeds.
Those are the conditions. I think they're very good ones, and it's the best they have available. They'd better hurry before the American people drag them out of their houses and hang them from the nearest lampposts, which I think is about to happen anyway.
RENSE: Do those conditions apply to the Rothschilds as well?
FULFORD: Yeah, I mean, maybe the Rothschilds can work themselves their own deal. I'm in contact with a Rothschild representative, and maybe we can come up with something else. The main point is to stop the genocide. That is the number one goal. FULFORD: My great grandfather was G.T. Fulford. He was one of the richest men in the world - George Taylor Fulford. You can find him on Wikipedia. He was one of the richest men on Earth, and he was the largest single shareholder in General Electric.
He was going to finance Nikola Tesla, but he was murdered by the Rockefellers in 1905. It was made to look like a car accident.
RENSE: Your grandfather.
FULFORD: Great grandfather.
RENSE: Great grandfather. So really! Wow.
FULFORD: And the family fortune was stolen. My grandfather was only three years old at the time. The family fortune was taken over by the Rockefellers. My grandfather didn't know how to suspend his assets.
I am telling the Rockefellers right now, they can think of me as the ghost of G.T. Fulford, come back over a century - from four generations - to get justice.
RENSE: You speak in a very brave and cavalier way.
FULFORD: I've got good people behind me!
RENSE: And as I was going to say, you speak as if you are a man with great self-assurance, and you have a lot of friends.
FULFORD: Absolutely. You have 100,000 assassins backing you up, you don't have to be a chicken! And that's why you need gangsters to fight gangsters. This is where these Asian people come in. They know how to do a gang war. The first phase, which is what I have initiated right now, is the shouting match. We say, "Look. You'd better listen." And if they don't listen, then we go to the next phase.
So I hope you're listening out there, Mr. Cheney and Mr. Rockefeller. We have someone close to each of you. You can be turned into dead meat in a matter of hours. I am not bluffing.
And I am hoping it doesn't come to that. I am a decent human being. I am a journalist. I do not want any death. Not one.
But if it comes to it, they will all be slaughtered. They will be hunted down like beasts. Every one of them will be killed. Until they agree to the terms I mentioned before.
Think about the one-dollar bill. You have the eye on the pyramid. The eye represents the people who kept the human race in the job of pyramid building, right? What you have to do - this is very important - it is very, very centralized, this thing. Target the eye.
Forget about their flunkies. Forget about their employees, their servants. They just have no choice. They are innocent. Even the people on the Council of Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergers - most of them are decent people who would really not like to be part of this, but they had no choice.
So the trick is to go right to the very, very top.
The expanded - the other Illuminati families, you know the names. The Warburgs, the Morgans, Schiffs, et cetera - everybody knows the names. The Bilderbergers, the Council of Foreign Relations, Skull and Bones, Scroll and Key, all these people [have top Illuminati members in their groups].
The point is that what they do - the trick is to start at the very highest level and work your way down. They don't want to kill anybody, if possible. Let's keep it to the minimum, if possible. But, if necessary, if it's the only way to stop the killing of hundreds and hundreds of millions of people, which is what they're trying to do...
FULFORD: It is the Internet and websites like yours that help people like me figure out what is going on.
RENSE: Well, thank you.
FULFORD: What happened to me was I got exposed to the corruption in Japan. I started as a financial journalist, and I realized that all the bad debt was controlled by gangsters, which really didn't make sense. Hundreds of billions of dollars, controlled by gangsters?
Their number one man is David Rockefeller. Number two and three are Philip Rothschild and Jay Rockefeller. Just remember those three names at the very least. Don't forget David, Lord Carollton (ph) in England. We all know who they are. That's the thing about them.
RENSE: So is this suggesting some kind of cooperation between the Chinese secret society and the Japanese government, which wants liberation from the yoke of the Rothschilds?
FULFORD: Absolutely! Absolutely. They are cooperating. They are going to be given an ultimatum soon. We're just waiting for all our ducks to be in a row. The Chinese [secret society has] six million. So that's 600 to 1 odds. More specifically, there are ten professional assassins for each member of the Illuminati. So basically it's checkmate for them.
The question is how to bring this out to the public and make this a formal thing.
However, killing people is something I don't like - and neither do they. So the first order of business is to try to talk, before things get radical.
The point is, there is the technical ability to wipe them all out in a matter of hours. They would all be assassinated.
But instead, I think, they're going to be offered an opportunity. I don't think - I know. They are going to be offered an opportunity to surrender.
RENSE: Will you be playing a role in making such an offer?
FULFORD: Absolutely. I am their spokesman. My job is to represent them in the Western world.
I know what I am allowed to say and what I am not allowed to say.
The point is this. We would start by killing David Rockefeller, and then work our way down the list until they agree to our terms.
RENSE: You speak, I want to make this clear. Ben Fulford is speaking hypothetically here.
FULFORD: Hypothetically. What I'm saying is that if they do not surrender...
RENSE: ...or comply, or become acquiescent... FULFORD: My job is to try to make sure that not a single person dies. That is the ideal. The commissions that are going to be offered - and I know David Rockefeller is going to be listening to this, so you'd better listen, David Rockefeller:
1. They are going to be allowed to keep their palaces and their servants. They will be given an amnesty, but they must appear before a truth commission.
2. And they must promise - them and their clan - to never, ever try again to enslave the human race.
3. And third, they must spend the rest of their lives doing good deeds.
Those are the conditions. I think they're very good ones, and it's the best they have available. They'd better hurry before the American people drag them out of their houses and hang them from the nearest lampposts, which I think is about to happen anyway.
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